Monday, July 18, 2016

Fishing Report for Wheeler 7-14-16

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On Thursday, I had no intentions of fishing the wildcat tournament out of Ditto. I had to stay home so the furniture repairman could fix our bed. Long story. Aubree had practice later that night. But, rain moved into the area and I began getting texts from my fishing buddies about how the fishing should be really good. The cogs started turning....

So, I hooked the boat up and headed to the ramp after hearing that Aubree's practice was canceled. I was about 10 minutes late so I dropped the trolling motor and started fan casting around the inside of the harbor. Didn't even put my graphs on. About that time, many people were getting off work and were bank fishing. I decided to let them fish since I could go anywhere in the boat and I couldn't.

As can be read, the only pattern that has worked for me in the last few weeks has been crankbaits on bluffs. I made the short run to the upper end of Hobb's Island before I started fishing. Within 5 minutes, I had caught a very nice fish (for the river) on a Zellpop. Now all I needed was four more. 

Going down the bluffs, I caught fish after fish, but none of them measured. Eventually I became frustrated at the amount of 8-10 inch fish. Many of the fish were smaller than the Strike King crank. So, I began to move around and cover some different areas. I didn't get another bite.

With about 30 minutes to go, my wife called me and told me to look up. Sure enough, a nasty storm had moved almost on top of me and I hadn't even seen it.  It was so nasty that I immediately got into the console, fired the big motor up, and headed to the ramp. Since I didn't have my graph, I didn't notice that I was still sitting in about 2 feet of water. That might have prevented me from banging my prop against some rock and putting some nice divots in it. Ugh. But, I had the boat on the trailer before the weather turned nasty. Safety first!

There was one 15 pound bag of fish caught and only two other boats weighed in fish. Both of those limits were small. My one fish went 1.92. The consensus is that the rain really didn't help the bite. Water temps still holding in the mid-80s, no current to speak of. In all, I caught around 7 fish. 

Friday, July 8, 2016

Fishing Report for Wheeler 7/8/2016

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In an effort to get qualified for the upcoming Classic, I had to fish a few more Thursday night tournaments. No problem. Ditto is just up the road from work. Of course, I had to consider just how tough the fishing had been and would most likely continue to be. The combination of heat, lack of current and drought has really teamed up to make fishing the upper end of Wheeler not worth dealing with.

As it stands, water temps hover in the mid-80s, the water level is down around two feet, and I haven't seen current above 18,000 is some time. You need a minimum of 30,000 to expect any sort of bite. 

If it were just me that had been struggling, I would tell you to take your own chances. I'm not a very good fisherman, after all. I just like pretending that I am by writing about my adventures. 

Though I have gone almost four trips without catching a decent sack of measuring fish, I have been able to consistently catch a limit of 12 inchers. Well, the last few weeks have taken just that to win. In fact, last week a six pound limit won and a 2 pound fishing managed to cash a third place check. So, there's that. Take a gander at some of the other fishing trips I have made.

After much convincing, Brad decided that he would brave the hot weather and tough bite and fish with me. The game plan was simple: hunt for the big bite. We would be fishing for one fish that should be enough to win big fish and maybe second or third. After we caught it, we would worry about the rest. With the rain on the 4th and the ran expected on the 6th(though it didn't rain), I was hoping that TVA would kick the generators on. But, as yesterday wore on, it was obvious that there would, once again, be no current.  

I decided to run to the dam and fish a couple of spots that I have had luck fishing in the past. Among those is a spot that consistently holds good smallmouth. Could we get them to bite without current? I wasn't sure. 

So, we made the run along with two other boats. I decided to fish the far most wing wall of the lock. Josh and I have caught some very nice sacks of largemouth down the rip rap bank. Bait was extremely plentiful in the area and I was marking fish on below bait balls, which were suspended in the very middle of the slough created by the wing wall and the bank. Yet, we pounded the bank without luck.

Down the bank we went. I concentrated on the slight swings of the channel which create current breaks. Again, with the boat in 16 feet of water, we were marking tons of bait and fish. 

As the sun went down, we began catching fish, but all of them were 11-inchers, though we did have a smallmouth that wouldn't meet the 15 inch limit. All of our fish came on shallow running cranks. 

We returned to the ramp empty handed, but we were not the only ones. In fact, only three boats weighed fish. The winner was one of the boats that also fished the dam with us and they had a seven pound hog to go along with some squeakers. But, it was more than enough to win. Winning weights were 10.05 (with seven pounder), then a nice sack of fish that went nine. I don't know what third was, but it really didn't matter.

In retrospect, I don't feel bad about my gameplan. Could I go down the bluffs as I had been doing and catch a limit? Yes. But, I didn't want to have my heartbroken by weighing in five fish for four pounds only to be beat by five fish for 4.5 pounds. 

What I do regret is that I didn't push out and fish deeper. In hindsight, I believe the fish were in deeper water on the first drop of the ledge. I was marking them under bait. While many were white bass (I did make a few casts, which resulted in catching whites), there were undoubtedly some bass mixed in. 

If I could do it again, I would fish a 6XD and a worm all afternoon and work that 16 foot depth around the bait. Speaking of the bait, it didn't help that there was a ton of it and it was so small that there was nothing we could throw to mimic it. 

Oh well, one down and two more to go until the Classic. Just keep in mind that the stretch of river between 565 and the dam is extremely tough, so fish at your own risk. 


Tuesday, July 5, 2016

Fishing Report for Wheeler 7/3/2016

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If you were following me on Facebook, you might have known that I was on vacay last week, culminating in an awesome experience in deep sea fishing with  Sea Leveler Sport Fishing Charters. If you didn't read the fishing report, go check it out.

We got home late Friday night and Saturday I busted my tail around the house. Late that afternoon, I treated myself to a short fishing trip to my uncle's pond a few miles away. The fishing was pretty tough, but I was able to target some fish with a Spro frog. 

Of note was this absolute toad that hit just 5 feet from me. The combination of the short line, weight, and my stupid hard hookset resulted in a broken H2O XPRESS Ethos 7/3" heavy rod.

On Sunday, I was itching to take my boat out. So, after another day of chores, I sought permission from my wife, who cleared me. 





I put in at the Army rec ramp and had already decided that I was going to fish mostly new or rarely fished waters. In particular, I was going to flip and throw chatterbaits. I was doing this to get better at techniques that I don't commonly use, but would be needing down the stretch of tournaments.

The water temp was in the mid to upper 80s and the water level was still down fairly significantly. There was no current. 

I began the day flipping wood on the main channel. I fished for an hour without a bite. I moved to the backwater area below Triana. I had high hopes for this area as it has the only grass east of Decatur but isn't a frequent stop by fishermen. Again, another hour of flipping and chunking without a hit. I fished exposed buck bushes, grass lines, wood, and everything in between.

One thing also stayed the same: there was TONs of bait and they mostly held to the shady sides of cover. 

Along the way, I very nearly got stuck. My boat doesn't take much water to float, but over the course of the hour I was in the backwater, TVA must have dropped the water a little. I couldn't get out the same way I came in! 

I was able to get the boat out, but only barely.

My next life-threatening adventure came at the hands of some pleasure boaters. As this boat was coming head-on, it decided that 100 yards in front of me was the time to cut it sideways and drag the tuber in front of me. I had to come off the pedal, duck right, and take on a wake I hadn't planned on, especially not at speed. 

After struggling more, I went to the only pattern that has been working for me on the end of the lake this summer. I went to the rod box and picked up my trusty crankin stick with a Strike King series 3. Sure enough, the pattern produced and I began catching fish. I decided to get back to the ramp before it got dark.

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We took our annual beach trip this past week. Over the last half a decade, we have settled in on using Cocoa Beach/Cape Canaveral. Not only had we become accustomed to it due to my work, but we found it to be an area that really suits us. Yes, the drive is significantly longer, but the lines and waits at local establishments are much shorter. 

The area isn't very tourist-y, though it is a port for Carnival, Disney, and other cruise lines. So, on some days there is a little traffic, but the vast majority of the beaches are not congested. We can go wherever we want and we choose Cocoa Beach. 

This trip was a little different. While our friends Josh and Emily usually vacation with us, they now have a baby. In addition, my other best friend and his family were set to accompany us. Instead of a renting a condo, we rented a beach house. 

My dad and uncle and their wives decided to also vacation, though they stayed at a different place. With that many people, it made the perfect opportunity to charter a fishing boat and get to experience some deep sea Atlantic fishing. 

Josh settled on Sea Leveler Sport Fishing Charters based upon their reputation and success in putting non-locals on fish. In particular, Josh explained that we were very interested in grouper, amberjack, and mahi-mahi. 

After a few relaxing days at the beach, we met up with captain Garren, who would be taking us out on Seas The Day, a 31 foot fishing boat. Here is a little bit on Garren from their website: 

"Captain Garren grew up in Merritt Island where he spent most of his time on the water or in the water, and he wouldn't change a thing! Garren's grandfather Instilled a life-long passion for fishing and the outdoors in his grandson. Garren has been fishing the waters of the Bannana River Lagoon and the waters off Cocoa Beach since he could hold a fishing pole and to this day, he still can't get enough of it! He can honestly say he leaves vacations to come right back to paradise. From the second you hop on board, you will see he loves giving people a local experience they'll never forget. Recently, shark fishing has become Garren's favorite type of fishing. He loves the thrill of the unknown when shark fishing. Whether you are catching a 3 ft shark or 300lb shark, the entire night is very exciting and keeps you on your toes."

After a talk with Garren the night before, we headed to Sunrise Marina around 6AM, which beats getting up at 2AM for bass tournaments! All of us had taken our meds to prevent seasickness, but Garren told us to expect very calm seas, for which we were all thankful. In the back of my mind, I wondered how calm seas would affect the fishing. In my experience with inshore fishing, calm waters typically meant tough fishing. 

We loaded up on the boat and after having to wait for another boat in front of us, we headed out to sea.


At around 20 knots, it took us almost two hours to reach the first spot. But, it was a very pleasant ride. Eventually we found the spot he was looking for, which was about 150 feet deep. We would be dropped two lines at a time. 

Using live bait called croakers, we dropped our heavy weights down to around 150 feet. Kevin and Josh were up first and Garren instructed us on what to feel for and how to reel. Of course, it was the total opposite of my experience in bass fishing. Within seconds of the weights hitting the bottom, we had a fish on. Kevin fought and fought. After a fairly long and exhausting fight, captain Garren gaffed Kevin's fish, for which he caught solo (more on that later). Just like that, we had 35 pounds of meat in the cooler. Josh, who had planned the whole trip, took a giant sigh of relief. 

After a re-baiting of the one hook, I took my place next to Josh, who was still up. Garren maneuvered the boat back to the spot and instructed us when to drop, which we did. Once again, the second the lead hit the sand, Josh was hooked up with a fish. Again, the fight was long and exhausting, but Garren put another one in the boat. We now had a nice grouper and a solid amberjack. 

I was back up, along with my uncle Jeff. In another impressive bit of seamanship, Garren put us right back on the spot. He could account for drift as well as the amount of time it would take for the bait to find its mark. It culminated in pin-point accuracy. 

Once my bait hit the bottom, I felt a fish take the bait, but my bass fishing instincts kicked in and I tried to feel for the fish and then set the hook. All wrong. It took me two or three tries to get hooked up, but Garren was very patient with me. When I finally did get hooked up, so did uncle Jeff. We both fought our fish, but at the very end, his came to the surface before mine and then wrapped my line up. It resulted in getting one fish in, but my fish came off. 

I did manage to get a serious blister on my finger from all that serious reeling! 

The spot went dead on us and Garren made one of those fisherman's instinctive call. He headed to the gulf stream, something that none of the other boats were doing. It was another lengthy ride. But it paid serious dividends.

We doubled up on amberjack not once but twice. Then we added another. Before we knew it, we had our limit of amberjack and a cooler full of fish. Along the way, I finally caught a nice 'jack of my own, but not without help. 

In fact, the move to the gulfstream meant deeper water, much deeper. We were dropping our lines down to almost 300 feet which meant around 400 feet of line to reel in! Because of that, we would have to use teamwork to get those fish in! One would hold the rod while the other reeled. About halfway through, we would have to swap off! 




After the two double-ups in a span of 30 minutes (15 of which we spent fighting the fish and another 15 to retrace the 1.5 mile drift we had made between hook ups) all of us needed a break. It was some serious work for which we all had bruises and blisters. 

Again, what was amazing to me was Garren managing the gulf stream drift of 5MPH, the time to get the baits to the bottom, and then maneuvering the boat to keep us in place. All that work resulted in 5 drops that resulted in instant hook-ups. 

With our limit of amberjack, we moved on to looking for grouper. Garren found a group of fish which we could get to hit, but they would simply steal the bait. Occasionally we could get a limited hookup, but they all pulled off. Before we knew it, it was time to head in. None of us had our feelings hurt because we had a ton of fish and we were all dead tired. 

Crazy thing is, Garren was set to go right back out for a shark trip after he cleaned our fish. Speaking of, he cut the meat just as we asked. The women and children met us at the dock and we celebrated with some photos! 





With a cooler of fresh fish, we immediately got to work on cooking it. We fed 16 people three different meals and still brought home 20 pounds of fish! My favorite meal? Amberjack tacos with a home-made aioli sauce and a mozzarella slice topped with my honey balsamic cherry tomato/red onion/avocado salad

We had a blast and we will be making a fishing trip on each vacation from now on. Garren was great to us in terms of instruction and patience (especially me!). He was also very personable and engaging. He had tons of advice on how to cook the fish, local destinations, and essentially all things Cocoa. In terms of fishing knowledge, what he put us on is undeniable. In a vast and deep ocean, he had us hitting a spot the size of a VW Beetle and it meant big-time fish. We will be asking for him again. 

Monday, June 20, 2016

Fishing Report for Pickwick 6/18/16

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I doubt there are many dads out there lucky enough to have this type of Father's Day gift. When asked what I wanted to do for father's day, I responded that I wanted to fish a tournament with my wife. Many wive's might have scoffed at the idea. Those that would concede it would probably take the day to lay out on the back deck. But, I knew better. My wife is too competitive for that. She's been kind of a good luck charm on Pickwick, though we haven't won a tournament. We have gotten checks in them, as you can read from these reports.


Fishing Report for Pickwick 4/16/16



It didn't hurt that I threw in dinner at the River Bottom Grill after a little late afternoon fishing as a date night the evening before. 

We had the boat in the water around 6PM on Friday night and ran down the little river section of 7 Mile Island to see if some of our river fish were still around. This spot has become my last resort spot for tournaments, as it consistently produces a limit, even if it is small. 

Seeing that there wouldn't be any current on Saturday, my game plan was to stop somewhere on the way to Waterloo and get a limit. As soon as I had the limit, no matter how big, I would head down river to find a school of fish on a ledge. Having a limit is paramount, as many of you know. Considering how this time of year can be, having a limit of any kind will at least keep you in the ball game. Just take a look at our last trip on Pickwick last month and what having a limit would have done! 

Fishing Report for Pickwick 5/ 13&14 /2016


Our first stop produced just one fish, a decent spot that came off of a Zara Spook. It is the first top water fish I have caught on the Tennessee River this year. In talking with other fishermen, it appears that the top water bite just hasn't been very good. 

We ran to the tip of 7 Mile as the sun began to set. Behind a small current break, I could see bait fish being run up the bank in about 14 feet of water. On one of my first casts with a Strike King Series 3, I had a fish hit. There was a lot of weight and it didn't swim right. I assumed that it was a trash fish. With another boat having stopped in front of me about the time i set the hook, I slow played the fish. Alyse grabbed the net and as I pulled the fish in, we saw that it wasn't a fish, but two fish. Both bass. 

In the process of slow playing, I lost the smaller of the two but was able to boat the larger, another spot. About that time, the other boat pulled in a fish. We traded fish for about 30 minutes before Alyse talked me into leaving some for tomorrow. In all, I caught around 5, most on a PTL 5" Sick Stick on a Magnum Shakey Head. None were very big, but I had faith that we could catch our limit quickly. While I was stowing rods, I snagged my flip flops and broke the strap. Now, I don't normally fish in flippy floppies because, well, hooks and stuff. Plus, my feet burn easy. But, this trip I brought them....and only them. I tried to repair them by melting the strap. No luck. 

We tied the boat up at the River Bottom Gill  and I plodded inside with my busted flip flop while singing Jimmy Buffet. Alyse took a funny video of me. 

A video posted by Alyse Taylor (@alysetaylor) on
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Anyway, we shared some fried pickles and the River Bottom Burger, which is amazing. Then, we had to hunt down some MORE flip flops before going to bed at our families place on Wilson lake. 

Up and at it at 4AM...which is a lot better than 2AM! 

The ramp was fairly empty and we were able to easily get going. We stopped at the point as everyone else either headed to the dam or went down river. Considering the lack of current, there was no way I was going to fish the dam. While I knew that the better fish were down river and that I would probably find just spots here at the point, I wanted a limit. 

Working both sides of the point, we began to pick up fish. They were coming on an assortment of lures but there seemed to be no pattern other than the fish seemed to be grouped in one tiny area. 

There was a small rockpile on the side of the point, smaller than the boat. It was about 5 feet off the bank, so there was a hole between the bank and the rockpile that created a hole. More importantly, it provided a current break and an ambush spot. Between the worm, the Spook, and a chatterbait, we had three fish. 

Alyse was getting bit on a Strike King 3, which is her favorite bait, but the fish were being awfully crafty. She lost two or three measuring fish that would have finished the limit. One of those broke the line as it pulled against the rockpile, totally not her fault. She did pull in a smallie that didn't measure.

About the time I was going to turn around and make a last pass, Alyse spotted a fish running bait against the bank. I didn't think it was very big and it wasn't worth my time, but she convinced me to throw on it. I had to skip the Spook under some branches and it landed an inch from the bank. Two twitches in and a fish annihilated it! This was no small fish. It was a money fish.


We slow played the tail walking toad to the boat and she netted it. It was easily the biggest fish we have caught together in a tournament. I told her that we now needed one more quality fish to win, even if we didn't get another hit all day.

Just seconds later that very fish knocked the Spook five feet in the air! The fish came completely out of the water but missed. I said some wordy durds. 

Eventually we picked up a fifth fish, started the big motor, and began heading towards Waterloo. As we passed Colbert Ferry Park, I spotted matted grass and I was compelled to fish it. 

Throwing a frog didn't amount to a bite, but as I fished the edges of the grass, I had a hit. It didn't result in a fish in the boat, but the quickness and suddenness of the bite which came on a chatterbait backed by a PTL Swinging Hammer gave me a reason to stay. 

The next hour of fishing was the best hour I've had this year in terms of both number and quality. We caught around 10 fish in the next hour on an assortment of baits. Sadly, a series of misfortunes hurt us. Alyse has never fished grass and her crankbait experience hurt her as she was bulldogged by big fish. They would get in the grass and pop the lures free. 

I also struggled. Two (and my only two) chatterbaits both broke at the ring. I also lost some series fish on a swimjig, also with a PTL Swinging Hammer

We knew we had a good bag. After texting and calling some of the other club members as well as talking to random fishermen, we knew that we were way ahead of the pack, most likely. But, we wanted 20 pounds. Any of the fish we lost would have most likely pushed us to the mark. The issue was that were catching a lot of quality fish, just none over three pounds. 

By the end of the day, we had caught 20 or so three pounders. In addition, we had the big one from that morning. I figured we had around 17. 

The biggest loss of the day was the Bullshad that I managed to break. How it broke on braid I will never know. As I ripped it through some grass, it simply broke. I wasn't able to find it.

We didn't have 17. We had 15.5 and the big fish was a six pound head on a four pound body, checking in at 4.8. That weight was still almost double second place. Though we cashed the first place check, losing that $50 bullshad hurt. 

On the way home, we stopped at West End Outdoors. They didn't have the cheaper Boyd Duckett BD-series swimbaits, but they DID have Bullshads. The issue there? They wanted between $60 and $90. Nope. 

Anyway, we had a great day catching around 25 fish. The swimjig and chatterbaits did the most damage. 

Props to my wife who, though she didn't have the best day catching, did a marvelous job at netting! 




Monday, June 13, 2016

Fishing Report for Guntersville 6/10&11/16

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Brad and I had a club tournament coming up on the 11th. While prefishing the G hasn't EVER done us any good and the lake has been the bane of our existence for the last three years....we decided to prefish anyway. 

To be fair, it is ledge bite time and you HAVE to prefish or at least get out there and search for the super school. 

We put in at Seibold and immediately began scanning ledges. We began looking at the 14-18 foot range. The first set of ledges, out on the main river in front of Seibold, looked promising. We were marking bait balls and larger fish, but they didn't seem to be grouped up nor relating to any structure. For the rest of the day, we scanned ledges from Seibold to Goose Pond. 

In the meantime, we did do some fishing, but we weren't getting bit. In fact, the ledges we started at ended up being the most promising area, even if we couldn't get a bite. As I've said elsewhere, the top water bite on the Tennessee River has been off this year. Of course, if you know better, comment below! 

We quit around 2PM after arriving at just 9AM. We figured it would be better to save our strength. After all, I would have to get up at 2AM in order for us to be on the water at 5AM.

Along the way, I made some phone calls to try and gather some information. I wasn't looking for a winning bag or any secrets, just something to get us on fish. Several guys had been catching ledge fish and all said that their bites were coming in 18 foot while the boat was in 30. That might explain why we weren't getting bit on ledges. Everyone agreed that the top water bite was still way off.

We decided to start on our ledges in Seibold, but after 15 minutes without a bite on top water and chatterbaits, we made a change and ran to some shallow humps in front of Seibold. I was throwing a Z-Man in a green pumpkin color with a PTL Swinging Hammer swimbait.  On my first cast into five feet, I caught a nice keeper. 

Minutes later, I had a second keeper and we were one away from a three fish limit. 

I had another come unbuttoned, but Brad hung into a nice fish and we boated  4.5 pounder. It was a great start and exactly what to guys who have struggled really needed.

I added a fourth fish, though it didn't look to add anything. 

The sun came out and the chatterbait bite died.

We moved to the ledges. Nothing. Over and over we checked spots from the day before, even idled around and tried to see if the fish had moved. We couldn't get a bite. We got desperate and started scanning for new schools, but none of them ever bit. Brad eventually boated a decent fish on a lizard, but it didn't help us. 

We threw a collection of crankbaits, lizards, and big works. I even tried to throw a magnum shakey head. Nothing. 

We weighed in a little over 8 pounds in our three fish, which I believe was good enough for fifth place.  First place was 13 pounds, second was 12, and third was a little under that. There wasn't a fish over 5.82 weighed in and very few five pounders weighed. The fish have not recovered from the spawn just yet. 

On the day we had just five fish on six bites. The water temp would begin in the high 70s and creep to 85 by the end of the day. Grass is coming along, but not topped out anywhere. The water level is incredibly low and I imagine the frog bite will be very good, as long as there isn't much rain. 

Fishing Report for Wheeler 6/9/16: Ditto Wildcat

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On Monday or Tuesday, Josh had asked me if I wanted to fish the Ditto Wildcat on Thursday night. We hadn't fished one yet and it seemed tempting. It was especially tempting because the weights had been at late July and August levels. That is, six pounds would get a check. Based upon my prefishing the week before, I knew that it would be tough, but I also knew I could get a small limit. All I had to do was do some flipping. 

Fishing Report for Wheeler: Week of 6/1-5/16


On Thursday, I brought the boat to work. Turns out, Josh couldn't fish. We had a club tournament coming up, so I had to make a decision: fish the wildcat alone or prefish alone. It isn't that I don't like fishing alone (I mean, I don't) but prefishing Guntersville has done me ZERO good so far this year. I decided that I would just fish the wildcat.

There was no current according to the TVA so I decided to start out flipping. So, I flipped and flipped and flipped. No bites. I spent two of the three hours I had flipping. 

Around 7 I moved out onto some bluffs. The only other way I had been catching fish was with a Strike King 3XD, targeting shade on the bluffs. I really had to get the bait on the edge of the bluffs. For the most part, that meant actually hitting the ledge with the bait. 


Pretty quickly, I began to get hits. Unfortunately, I missed a decent fish because I had no net man and the fish threw the bait at the boat. I moved 25 yards and caught another. Then another. While I was catching fish, only every third fish actually measured. With four in the box, I had to make a call: Do I finish the limit with a small fish or try and find a kicker? 

I decided on the latter and went back to flipping for the last 30 minutes.

The only thing that flipping provided was the smallest fish of the day, a six-incher. 

In all, I caught around 10 fish but the size was just pitiful. I did throw some top water, but not much, as what fishing I have done has shown that the fish aren't interested in top water at all.

As I went to weigh in, the ramp was absolutely packed and the parking lot was a disaster. I decided to forego the weigh and toss my fish. The winning weight was 14 pounds and it took just over 6 to get 3rd place.

It's very tough out there and the reliable bite I can find is on the bluffs with a small crankbait.